Prescription Drug Abuse: The Real Story | Steve Adubato | Caucus NJ

HI, I'M JOEL BLOOM PRESIDENT OF THE NEW JERSEY INSTITUTE OF TECHNOLOGY

AT NJIT WE BELIEVE THAT NOT ONLY OUR STUDENTS BUT ALL CITIZENS NEED TO BE INFORMED ABOUT THE ISSUES FACING HIGHER EDUCATION AS NEW JERSEY'S SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY UNIVERSITY, NJIT IS PROUD TO SUPPORT THE IMPROTANT PROGRAMMING PRODUCED BY THE CAUCUS EDUCATIONAL CORPORATION AND THEIR PARTNERS IN PUBLIC TELEVISION PRESCRIPTION DRUG ABUSE, THE REAL STORY, NEXT ON CAUCUS NEW JERSEY FUNDING FOR THIS EDITION OF CAUCUS NEW JERSEY HAS BEEN PROVIDED BY ACTIVIS IN COOPERATION WITH THE AMERICAN MEDICINE CHEST CHALLENGE BARNABAS HEALTH WELLS FARGO NEW JERSEY MANUFACTURERS INSURANCE GROUP AUTO INSURANCE HOMEOWNER'S INSURANCE AND BANKING UNDER THE PRINCIPLE OF STEWARDSHIP NEW JERSEY NATURAL GAS PROUD TO SUPPORT EDUCATION IN OUR COMMUNITIES AND BY QUALCARE INC A LOCAL MANAGED CARE COMPANY COVERING 750,000 NJ RESIDENTS PROMOTIONAL SUPPORT PROVIDED BY THE STAR LEDGER AND NJCOM EVERYTHING JERSEY AND BY NEW JERSEY MONTHLY THE MAGAZINE OF THE GARDEN STATE, AVAILABLE AT NEWSSTANDS WELCOME TO CAUCUS NEW JERSEY, I'M STEVE ADUBATO YOU KNOW, PRESCRIPTION DRUG ABUSE AMONG TEENS REMAINS A MAJOR PROBLEM IN THE UNITED STATES, DATA SUGGESTS THAT NEARLY ONE IN FIVE TEENS ARE ABUSING MEDICATIONS NOT PRESCRIBED TO THEM WITH US TO DISCUSS WAYS TO IMPROVE THIS DANGEROUS SITUATION IN THE STUDIO WE HAVE DEVIN FOX IS THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF YOUNG PEOPLE IN RECOVERY NICOLE LEVINE IS A 2013 WINNER OF THE NEW JERSEY SHOUT DOWN DRUGS MUSIC COMPETITION CONNIE GREENE VICE PRESIDENT BARNABAS HEALTH INSTITUTE FOR PREVENTION AND FINALLY BACK BY POPULAR DEMAND WITH US MANY TIMES IS ANGELO VALENTI EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE PARTNERSHIP FOR A DRUG FREE NEW JERSEY I WANT TO THANK ALL OF YOU FOR JOINING US THROUGHOUT THIS PROGRAM, YOU'RE GONNA SEE A VERY VALUABLE AND IMPORTANT WEBSITE, GREAT RESOURCE, THE MEDICINE CHEST CHALLENGE, AMERICAN MEDICINE CHEST CHALLENGE WHY IS THAT SITE SO IMPORTANT ANGELO? WHAT IT DOES STEVE IS IT GIVES PEOPLE AN OPPORTUNITY FAMILIES AN OPPORTUNITY TO HELP PROTECT THEIR MEDICINE CABINET FROM POTENTIAL ABUSE, IT GIVES THEM TIPS ON HOW TO SECURE THEIR MEDICINES, IT GIVES THEM TIPS ON UNDERSTNADNING WHAT THEY HAVE IN THEIR, BECAUSE MANY OF US DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT WE HAVE IN OUR MEDICINE CABINET UH, IT GIVES THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO DISPOSE OF MEDICINES THAT NO LONGER NEED A WARRANT, IT REMINDS THEM NOT TO SHARE THEIR MEDICINES BECAUSE MEDICINES ARE PRESCRIBED BY FOR AN INDIVIDUAL, AND FINALLY, MOST IMPORTANTLY, IT ENCOURAGES FAMILIES TO TALK TO THEIR CHILDREN ABOUT THIS ISSUE THERE NEEDS TO BE AN OPEN DIALOGUE THAT MEDICINES CAN BECOME VERY DANGEROUS IF THEY'RE NOT USED PROPERLY WELL ACTUALLY TO GO THROUGH SOME OF THE FIVE CHALLENGES IF YOU WILL RIGHT UH A LITTLE BIT LATER ON AND UM, I JUST WANT TO REMIND FOLKS THAT THIS PROGRAM IS NOT JUST FOR YOUNGER PEOPLE IF YOU WILL, WHO ARE DEALING WITH THIS ISSUE, ABUSING IF YOU WILL, BUT PARENTS, BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN SAID, RESEARCH SHOWS, PLUS ANECDOTALLY WE KNOW IT'S TRUE, THAT IF PARENTS DON'T SET BOUNDARIES IF PARENTS DON'T GET INVOLVED AND ENGAGED, THEN WE SHOULDN'T BE SHOCKED WHEN ALL OF A SUDDEN OUR KIDS ARE INVOLVED IN PRESCRIPTION DRUGS, IS IT FAIR TO SAY? I THINK IT'S FAIR TO SAY DEFINITELY, UM, YOU KNOW, AND I REALLY LIKE THE MEDICINE ABUSE PROJECT, I THINK IT'S YOU KNOW, A TREMENDOUS PROGRAM, BECAUSE THE USE AND ABUSE OF PRESCRIPTION DRUG ABUSE FOR YOUNG PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, WHO ARE TEENAGERS AND THEN EVEN GOING INTO THEIR YOUNG ADULTHOOD IS HUMONGOUS WELL BY THE WAY, TAKE A STEP BACK SURE YOUR STORY? MY STORY? YEAYH I'M DEVIN FOX, AND I'M A PERSON IN LONG TERM RECOVERY AND THAT MEANS FOR ME THAT I HAVE A PRIMARY DIAGNOSIS OF A SUBSTANCE USE DISORDER UM, YOU KNOW, SO I WENT THROUGH MY ACTIVE ADDICTION UM, AND I STARTED WHEN I WAS 18, UH, I WENT TO RUTGERS UH, I WENT TO TREATMENT, AND UH, I WENT BACK TO RUTGERS AND LIVED IN THE RUTGERS RECOVERY HOUSE THAT'S BEEN THERE FOR 25 YEARS

IS IT IMPORTANT TO SAY WHAT YOU WERE ADDICTED TO? UM, NOT FOR ME, UH, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE IT'S ALL ABOUT UM, ACTUALLY DEFINING UH, WHAT RECOVERY IS, AND THEN MOVING FORWARD WITH THE SOLUTIONS, SO UH, FOR THIS INDIVIDUAL IT WAS JUST ABOUT ANYTHING YOU PUT IN FRONT OF ME, UM, BUT UH, I'M LESS INTERESTED ABOUT DISCUSSING UM, WHAT I USED, AND MORE INTERESTED IN HOW WE CAN HELP SAVE PEOPLE'S LIVES LET'S GO BACK TO THE QUESTION OF PARENTS IF, LET'S GIVE CONCRETE ADVICE TO PARENTS, SOMEONE WATCHING, A PARENT WATCHING RIGHT NOW, SAYS I'M CONCERNED BUT LISTEN, WHAT'S IN MY MEDICINE CABINET, MY MEDICINE CHEST, MY PRESCRIPTION DRUGS ARE MINE IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH MY KIDS

YOU SAY? WELL IT'S NOT ONLY ABOUT WHAT'S IN YOUR MEDICINE CHEST, IT'S ABOUT SETTING CLEAR BOUNDARIES FOR KIDS FOR EXAMPLE? CHILDREN NEED TO KNOW WHAT ARE THE FAMILY VALUES, WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO THIS FAMILY AND CONSISTENCY AROUND THOSE VALUES, WHAT ARE THE MESSAGES, WHAT ARE WE DOING I WANT MORE A MORE CONCRETE EXAMPLE, HELP US ON THIS CONNIE CAUSE EVERYONE'S GONNA SAY YEAH YOU KNOW WE HAVE FAMILY VALUES AND WE COMMUNICATE THEM ALL THE TIME, BUT IN A, FROM A PRACTICAL POINT OF VIEW, WHAT DO WE REALLY MEAN BY THAT? FROM A PRACTICAL POINT OF VIEW, IT'S HAVING A DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT'S AVAILABLE OUT THERE, WHAT ARE WE SCARED ABOUT AS A FAMILY, WHAT DON'T WE WANT YOU TO BE INVOLVED WITH BECAUSE WE WANT YOU SAFE, AND HEALTHY, AND TO GROW DRUG FREE, AND IT'S VERY HARD FOR KIDS TO MAKE GOOD DECISIONS WITHOUT HAVING CONSISTENT CLEAR MESSAGES ABOUT WHAT ARE THOSE GOOD DECISIONS, WHAT DO MY PARENTS EXPECT OF ME? AND I KID AROUND VERY OFTEN I SAY WHEN A KID MAKES A BAD DECISION, IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THEM TO FEEL GUILTY, GUILT IS GOOD WOAH WOAH WOAH GUILT IS GOOD? GUILT IS GOOD AS A JEWISH MOTHER I HAVE THE RIGHT TO SAY THAT YOU DO KIND OF, I'M LOOKING AT THEM AND I'M READING HIS BODY LANGUAGE WELL I'M AS A, AS A, AS A PERSON, I'M WILLING TO SAY THAT I THINK THAT THAT'S REALLY UNFAIR WELL LET ME EXPLAIN WHAT I MEAN BY THAT, WHEN A CHILD MAKES A DECISION THAT'S OUTSIDE OF THE FAMILY VALUES GUILT MEANS I'VE DONE SOMETHING WRONG, SO THAT'S WHAT I MEANT BY IT, SO WHEN THEY MAKE THAT BAD DECISION I'VE STEPPED OUTSIDE OF FAMILY VALUES, AND THE RESEARCH TELLS US THAT KIDS THAT KNOW WHAT THE FAMILY VALUES ARE, THAT MAKE POOR DECISIONS ARE

USED LESS PROBLEMATICALLY, EVEN IF THEY BEGIN TO USE PRIOR TO THE AGE OF 21, WITH ALCOHOL THEY KNOW IT'S OUTSIDE OF FAMILY VALUES OKAY, BUT EVERY INDIVDUAL'S DIFFERENT, AND EVERY INDIVIDUAL HAS A CERTAIN PERSONALITYUH, WHETHER IT'S AN ADDICTIVE PERSONALITY OR NOT, WHETHER THEY'RE STRONGER OR WEAKER, PEER PRESSURE, MEANS MORE OR LESS AND EVERYONE'S GOT THEIR OWN STORY, BUT THIS IS, I FIND THIS VERY INTERESTING, FACT OR NOT, CAUSE I'M GONNA COME TO NICOLE ON THIS, 85% ANGELO OF STUDENTS ARE NOT USING DRUGS THAT'S CORRECT WHERE DOES THAT INFORMATION COME FROM, AND HOW DO WE KNOW THAT'S TRUE? WELL THERE ARE RESEARCH PROJECTS THAT ARE UNDERTAKEN BY BOTH THE NATIONAL PARTNERSHIP AS WELL AS THE NEW JERSEY PARTNERSHIP WHICH SHOWS THAT MOST KIDS ARE MAKING THE RIGHT CHOICE AND IN THIS CASE 85% IS A CLEAR MAJORITY OF YOUNG PEOPLE ARE NOT ABUSING DRUGS DO YOU, OKAY NOW NICOLE LET ME ASK YOU, YOU HEARD WHAT CONNIE WAS SAYING ABOUT THESE IMPORTANT CONVERSATIONS THESE HONEST CONVERSATIONS ABOUT FAMILY VALUES ETC ETC YOU'RE A PART OF THIS ORGANIZATION NEW JERSEY SHOUT DOWN DRUGS THE MUSIC COMPETITION WE'RE ACTUALLY GONNA HEAR YOU IN JUST A LITTLE BIT ON VIDEO TAPE, DESCRIBE YOUR FAMILY DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THIS AND WHAT IMPACT DO YOU BELIEVE IT'S HAD ON YOU, AND THE DECISION'S YOU'VE MADE WELL SEE I THINK THAT IN ORDER TO GROW UP THE REASON WHY I DON'T USE ANY SUBSTANCES IS BECAUSE EVER SINCE KINDERGARTEN, I KNOW THAT SOUNDS SO YOUNG, MY PARENTS HAVE ALWAYS AT DINNER TABLE WHENEVER WE'RE EATING DINNER TOGETHER, UM, THEY ALWAYS TELL ME LIKE, THE DANGERS OF IT AND THE CONSEQUENCES OF IT, AND THEY NEVER HID IT FROM ME THEY WERE ALWAYS OPEN FROM KINDERGARTEN? VERY LITTLE, CAUSE MY DAD'S A DOCTOR AND MY MOM'S A THERAPIST SO IT'S ALWAYS BEEN IN THIS SPHERE AND MY WHOLE FAMILY'S ALL ABOUT LIVING A HEALTHY LIFESTYLE, AND VERY REPETITIVE, AND THEY ADDRESSED IT AT A YOUNG AGE SO, I HAVE NO INTEREST IN DOING THAT AT ALL SO, BUT BUT TALK ABOUT THE PEER PRESSURE THING, RIGHT, YOU'RE AT MILLBURN HIGH SCHOOL, RIGHT? YEAH THE PEER PRESSURE THING I BROUGHT UP, BECAUSE EVERY KID, AND I DON'T MEAN THAT IN A NEGATIVE WAY, EVERY YOUNGER PERSON, YOUNG ADULT, RESPONDS DIFFERENTLY TO PEER PRESSURE CLEARLY THERE ARE YOUNG PEOPLE, WHETHER IT'S 15% OR NOT, I DON'T KNOW ASSUME THAT'S THE NUMBER IT'S GOING ON AROUND YOU TO SOME EXTENT, YOU'RE SAYING IT HAS NO IMPACT ON YOU? IT DOES HAVE AN IMPACT, BUT I HAVE A STRONG CODE OF ETHICS, BECAUSE OF THE WAY MY PARENTS RAISED ME, AND I KNOW THAT I CAN PUT MYSELF IN SITUATIONS WHERE I WOULD BE UNDER PEER PRESSURE BUT BUT SOME DO, AND LET ME ASK YOU, MM HMM AND ANGELO I WANT YOU TO JUMP IN HERE TOO MM HMM NOW, FOR SOME PEOPLE, FOR SOME YOUNG PEOPLE, THEY HAVE A CODE OF ETHICS, THEY'RE BROUGHT UP A CERTAIN WAY AND THEY HAVE A CERTAIN PERSONALITY, AND TO DATE SHE, AND WE HOPE THAT'S THE WAY IT STAYS, HASN'T AFFECTED HER WHAT DO YOU THINK IT IS IN CERTAIN PEOPLE, AND I KNOW EVERYONE'S DIFFERENT, I DON'T I'M NOT GONNA GENERALIZE YEAH WHAT DO YOU THINK IT IS FROM YOUR EXPERIENCE THAT CAUSES SOME TO BE SO SUSCEPTIBLE? I THINK THAT A LOT OF TIMES IT UM, IT CAN DEFINITELY COME DOWN TO THIS WANT TO FEEL INVOLVED, TO FIT IN, TO OR EVEN MAYBE PERHAPS NOT EXPERIENCE SOME TYPE OF FEELING THAT YOU'RE HAVING IN YOUR LIFE, UM, AND THIS JUST HAPPENS TO BE YOU KNOW, THE AVENUE THAT YOU TAKE TO DO THAT, UM FOR PRESCRPITION DRUGS? OH IT COULD BE PRESCRIPTION DRUGS THAT COULD BE A LISTED DRUG BUT STAY ON PRESCRIPTION DRUGS OKAY BUT WHAT IS IT ABOUT PRESCRIPTION DRUGS SO WHAT THE THING THAT IT IS ABOUT PRESCRIPTION DRUGS IS THAT UM, THEY ARE EASILY ACCESSIBLE, YEAH SO THEY'RE INSIDE UH, YOUR HOME USUALLY, AND THEREFORE AND ALSO CHEAPER IF YOU WILL THAN OTHER DRUGS, NO AM I WRONG ON THIS? UM YEAH WITH CO PAYS AND THINGS, YOU KNOW, THE SCRIPT YOU KNOW, MY MOM I THINK WAS A COUNTY EMPLOYEE SO SCRIPTS ARE LIKE 6-8 AND 18 YOU KNOW, AND IT YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S INCREDIBLY INTERESTING HOW WE HAVE A MEDICINE ABUSE PROJECT AND WE SHOULD PROBABLY ALSO BE DISCUSSING LIKE WHAT THE PLANS ARE UM, TO EXPAND THAT PROGRAM BECAUSE ONCE A WHOLE ENTIRE COUNTIES GET RID OF THEIR OPIATES, THE PRESCRIPTION OPIATES, ONE OF THOSE KIDS WHO ARE ACTUALLY PHYSICALLY ADDICTED TO THOSE OPIATES GONNA DO? SURE UM ARE THEY NOT GONNA JUST DRIVE TO NEWARK AND BUY HEROIN INSTEAD? BECAUSE IT'S CHEAPER AND BY THE WAY YOU MENTIONED ANGELO, JUMP BACK IN CAUSE WE IT'S ALSO BEEN SAID THAT SOME OF THESE PRESCRIPTION DRUGS ARE POTENTIALLY A GATEWAY TO HEROIN AM I WRONG ABOUT THAT? WITHOUT A DOUBT, WE'RE SEEING IT DIRECTLY I'LL LET YOU BACK IN CONNIE YEAH SURE I PROMISE WE'RE SEEING A DIRECT LINK BETWEEN A DIRECT LINK? A DIRECT LINK YEAH GO AHEAD I ACTUALLY MEAN INDIVIDUALS, YOUNG PEOPLE THAT ARE BEING INTRODUCED TO OPIATES THROUGH THE MEDICINE CABINET AND THEN WHEN THEY DRY UP AND THERE IS A MISPERCEPTION UH THAT PRESCRIPTION DRUGS ARE SAFE AS WELL, BECAUSE THEY'RE PRESCRIBED BY DOCTORS MY GRANDMOTHER TAKES IT MY MOM TAKES IT MUST BE SAFE RIGHT? EXACTLY HOW DANGEROUS WHY IS IT NOT TRUE? WELL BECAUSE WE KNOW IT BECOMES VERY ADDICTIVE AND THAT UNFORTUNATELY WHAT HAPPENS IN A CERTAIN SEGMENT OF INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE TAKING THESE DRUGS IS THAT THE METABOLISM AND IT'S A MEDICAL ISSUE, UH, DRIVES THEM TO NEED MORE

AND THE ADDICTION SETS IN AND THEN IN MOST CASES WHEN THE PRESCRIPTIONS DRY UP, UH, THEY BECOME MORE EXPENSIVE NOT LESS EXPENSIVE, BECAUSE PRESCRIPTIONS ON THE BLACK MARKET ARE MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE THAN HEROIN IS I MEAN IT COULD BE A SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE MM HMM HEROIN TODAY IN NJ, COULD BE PURCHASED FOR ANYWHERE BETWEEN 5 AND 10 DOLLARS AND VERY AVAILABLE AND VERY AVAILABLE VERY AVAILABLE WHEREAS PRESCRIPTION DRUGS THAT ARE NOT ACCESSED IN THE MEDICINE CABINET ARE MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE ON THE BLACK MARKET JUMP BACK IN CONNIE WHAT WE'RE FACING A NEW DILLEMA TODAY BECAUSE THE GATEWAY DRUGS OF THE PAST WE'RE ALCOHOL AND NICOTINE AND MARIJUANA, NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT PRESCRIPTION MEDICATION AS A GATEWAY DRUG, HENCE HEROIN USE BECAUSE IT'S CHEAPER, AND THE TREATMENT COMMUNITY AS WELL AS THE PREVENTION COMMUNITY IS FACING A DILLEMA THAT'S NEVER BEEN FACED BEFORE THERE IS EVEN NOW, ADDITIONAL DETOX PROGRAMS IN NJ FOR ADOLESCENTS THAT NEVER EXISTED BEFORE CAUSE THERE WELL THERE SHOULD BE BUT THERE WAS NOT A NEED BEFORE BUT THERE IS A NEED NOW NOW THERE IS AN ABSOLUTE NEED LET ME ASK YOU, WHILE WE'RE RESPONDING TO SOME EXTENT IS THE RESPONSE EVEN REMOTELY UM, STRONG ENOUGH, GOOD ENOUGH, BASED ON THE DEMAND, BASED ON THE SERIOUSNESS OF THE PROBLEM ABSOLUTELY NOT OKAY I'LL COME BACK TO YOU I PROMISE WE'VE ACTUALLY, I THINK, IN NJ HAVE REALLY LED THE NATION IN BRINGING THIS ISSUE TO THE FOREFRONT DEFINE WHAT THAT MEANS LEAD THE NATION? WELL FOR EXAMPLE, 5 YEARS AGO BEFORE PEOPLE WE'RE DISCUSSING THIS ISSUE, IN NJ WE HELD THE FIRST EVER STATEWIDE DAY OF AWARENESS AND DISPOSAL, SAFE DISPOSAL, OF MEDICATION, IT WAS A GREAT DAY, IT BROUGHT A LOT OF ATTENTION TO THE ISSUE, AND A LOT OF PEOPLE BECAME AWARE OF IT WELL HOLD ON, STAY RIGHT THERE YES CAUSE WE'VE DONE SOME PROGRAMMING ON THIS MM HMM I BELIEVE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS THE SAFE DISPOSAL OF PRESCRIPTION DRUGS THAT'S CORRECT HOW TO GET RID OF YOUR PRESCRIPTION DRUGS IN THE HOUSE CAUSE ONE OF THE ISSUES IN THE MEDICINE CHEST CHALLENGE THAT WE'RE GONNA PUT UP MM HMM IS WHAT ARE YOU DOING WITH YOUR PRESCRIPTION DRUGS WHEN YOU DECIDE AS AN ADULT AS A PARENT, BUT YOU'RE NOT GONNA TAKE THEM ANYMORE BUT STEVE I THINK THE SYSTEM IS OVERWHELMED AT THIS POINT, AND DEVIN SAID WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THAT? THAT THERE ARE SO MANY YOUNG PEOPLE, UM, 15, 16, RIGHT UP THROUGH INTO THEIR EARLY ADULTHOOD, THAT ARE ADDICTED AT THIS POINT, UH, BASED ON THIS INTRODUCTION THROUGH PRESCRIPTION DRUGS MM HMM MOVING ONTO HEROIN AND THERE'S NOT ENOUGH FACILITIES WELL THE FACT THAT OUR STATE IS NOW FUNDING 30 DETOX SLOTS FOR ADOLESCENTS IS UNHEARD OF MM HMM SO NJ IS FACING THIS ISSUE AND ATTEMPTING TO PUT IN PLACE THROUGH TREATMENT SERVICES THAT DIDN'T EXIST DEVON WHAT DO YOU THINK MOST YOUNG PEOPLE IN RECOVERY NEED WHEN IT COMES TO TREATMENT? UM? FOR PRESCRIPTION DRUG ABUSE FOR TREATMENT? UM YEAH WHAT DO YOU THINK IT REALLY IS? IF IT'S PRESCRIPTION OPIATES? YES UH THEN THEY DEFINITELY NEED DETOX, UM, IF IT'S PRESCRIPTION DRUGS IN GENERAL, SO THAT COULD BE ANY OTHER SUBSTANCE THAT COULD BE ADDERAL, OR UM, ANY ADDICTIVE SUBSTANCE LET ME ASK YOU SOMETHING DO YOU THINK IT DEPENDS, AND I DON'T WANT TO GET TOO CLINICAL HERE, OUTSIDE OF MY AREA OF EXPERTISE, DOES IT DEPEND UPON, DOES THE TREATMENT MM HMM FOR ADDICTION HMM DEPEND HEAVILY ON WHAT YOU'RE BEING TREATED FOR? WELL THIS IS REALLY AN INTERESTING QUESTION THAT YOU ASK, UH, IN I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS, OF COURSE, GO AHEAD IN MY OPINION, I THAT IT SHOULD, I THINK THAT, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT IN THE UNITED STATES OR IN NJ WE HAVE A LOUD ENOUGH VOICE FOR THE RECOVERING COMMUNITY OR PEOPLE THAT LOVE THE PROPLE IN RECOVERY, OR PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT YET IN RECOVERY UM, WE HAVEN'T HAD A LOUD ENOUGH VOICE TO DEMAND MONEY BE SPENT UM, YOU KNOW, SO THAT WE CAN FUND RESEARCH ON WHAT? TO FIND THAT OUT? ON RESEARCH? TO FIND OUT WHETHER OR NOT THAT TREATMENT NEEDS TO BE BASED UPON THE SUBSTANCE THAT YOU HAVE, THAT YOU ABUSE WELL BEFORE I LET YOU BACK IN CONNIE DESCRIBE THE RUTGERS EXPERIENCE FOR YOU? WHAT WAS THAT TREATMENT LIKE FOR YOU OKAY SO AND WHY DO YOU THINK IT WAS SO SUCCESSFUL, GO AHEAD ABSOLUTELY UM, I LIVED IN THE RUTGERS RECOVERY HOUSE RUTGERS RECOVERY HOUSE? CORRECT, SO IT WAS RECOVERY HOUSING, UH SO IT'S A DORMITORY ON CAMPUS, UH YOU KNOW, NOT TOTALLY SECLUDED OUT OF THE WAY BUT YOU KNOW, IN A NICE ENOUGH PLACE WHERE YOU FELT LIKE YOU WERE INVOLVED IN THE CAMPUS COMMUNITY BUT ALSO YOU KNOW FAR ENOUGH AWAY WHERE YOU FELT LIKE, YOU KNOW, YOU WEREN'T LIKE UP IN THE BUSINESS OF RUTGERS RIGHT ITSELF AND YOU KNOW, RUTGERS IS A SUPPOSEDLY DRY CAMPUS UM, WHICH IS YOU KNOW A VERY INTERESTING TOPIC TO HAVE UM, SO BUT THE THING IS, IS THAT THEY SUPPORT RECOVERY, UM SO BUT THEY'RE NOT SAYING HEY, YOU KNOW, YOU DRINK TOO MUCH OR YOU KNOW, THERE'S A PROBLEM WITH YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH ALCOHOL WHAT ARE THEY DOING? THEY'RE SAYING HEY YOU'RE IN RECOVERY WE HAVE A DORM HERE, UM, COME LIVE HERE AND HAVE A SUPPORTIVE ENVIRONMENT TO LIVE IN UH, WHILE YOU EXPERIENCE COLLEGE AND YOU GRADUATE GIVE ME AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT SUPPORT MEANS SURE, UH, THAT MEANS A COMMUNITY OF OTHER INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE DOING THE SAME THING AS YOU MEETINGS? THAT MEANS UH, PERHAPS MEETINGS, DEPENDING UPON YOU KNOW, WHAT FELLOWSHIP YOU DECIDED TO GO TO OR IF NOT GO TO BECAUSE RECOVERY IS NOT JUST ABOUT THE 12 STEP FELLOWSHIPS, UM AND ALSO IT'S REALLY THOSE 3 THINGS IT'S HAVING A COMMUNITY IT'S GOING TO MEETING IF YOU HAVE TO, AND HAVING YOU KNOW ACCESS TO A COUNCELLOR THAT YOU CAN SEE I WANT TO SHIFT GEARS, BY THE WAY, LOG ONTO THE SITE THAT WE HAVE UP THERE THE MEDICINE CHEST CHALLENGE WEBSITE, GREAT IMPORTANT INFORMATION IT'S A CLEARINGHOUSE ANG? IT IS TO GET TO EVERYTHING ELSE THAT PEOPLE NEED TO GET TO? IT'S REALLY A GREAT RESOURCE BECAUSE IT HAS ALL THE INFORMATION PARENTS NEED TO BE ABLE TO DEAL WITH THIS ISSUE AT THE FAMILY LEVEL AND ALSO IT PROVIDES INFORMATION ABOUT WHERE YOU CAN SAFELY DISPOSE OF YOUR MEDICINE AND THE OTHER THING, NICOLE I WANT TO DO THIS, THE SONG THAT YOU SANG IS CALLED I HOPE YOU'LL SAY NO CORRECT? YEAH FIRST OF ALL, BEFORE WE PLAY IT, DESCRIBE THE GENESIS BEHIND THIS, WHERE DID IT COME FROM? WHY DID YOU SING IT? AND WHY IS IT SO IMPORTANT TO EVERYONE? WELL I'M VERY ACTIVE IN A PEER LEADERSHIP PROGRAM AT MY SCHOOL IT'S CALLED THE PEER LEADERSHIP PROGRAM? YEAH GO AHEAD I'M, MY ADVISOR TOLD A GROUP ABOUT IT, AND I'VE BEEN PLAYING PIANO, GUITARS SINCE I WAS 8 AND WRITING SONGS SINCE I WAS 8 SO I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A GREAT WAY TO MERGE MY INTEREST IN TRYING TO SPREAD A PREVENTION MESSAGE TO MY COMMUNITY AND ALSO TO PLAY MUSIC AND UM, I ALSO UM, SUBSTANCE ABUSE RELATED TRAGEDIES, IN MY COMMUNITY INSPIRED ME TO WRITE THIS SONG YOU HAD THEM? UM, YOU HAD, THERE'S BEEN TRAGEDIES? THERE IN EVERY COMMUNITY'S HAD THEM? IT'S, YEAH UNFORTUNATELY YEAH AND I THOUGHT THAT MAYBE IF I CAN CONNECT TO PEOPLE AT AN EMOTIONAL LEVEL, THEN THAT WOULD REACH THEIR HEARTS AND INSPIRE THEM TO SAY NO TO USING DRUGS WOULD YOU MIND IF WE PLAYED YOUR MUSIC? YEAH SURE THIS IS NICOLE LEVINE AND IT'S A SONG THAT SHE WROTE YEAH IT IS CALLED I HOPE YOU'LL SAY NO HERE IT IS I LOVE SOMEONE, WHO THREW HIS LIFE AWAY, COVERED HIS MODE, BUT WEARS OUT TODAY HE USED TO MAKE HIS MOMMA PROUD, BUT NOW HE'S SIX FEET UNDERGROUND, FINALLY HE SAID NO, I HOPE THAT YOU'LL SAY NO THAT WAS AT NJPAC YES YES ANGELO WHAT WAS THE REACTION WELL IT WAS WONDERFUL TO SEE THE AUDIENCE BE SO POSITIVE FOR NICOLE AND FOR ALL OF OUR PERFORMERS, BECAUSE IT REALLY IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR YOUNG PEOPLE WHO ARE DOING THE RIGHT THING, WHO ARE MAKING THE RIGHT CHOICE WHAT IS THIS COMPETITION ABOUT? NOT COMPETITION, I SHOULDN'T SAY THAT WHAT IS THIS EVENT ABOUT? IT'S A PEER TO PEER MESSAGE SO WHAT WE DO AT THE PARTNERSHIP FOR A DRUG FREE NJ IS WE ASK TEENAGERS HROUGHOUT THE STATE OF NJ, TO CREATE ORIGINAL MUSIC WITH AN IMPORTANT MESSAGE TO THEIR PEERS ABOUT STAYING DRUG FREE ABOUT REMAINING DRUG FREE AND THEN WE HAVE THIS WONDERFUL CONCERT THAT TAKES PLACE WHERE WE HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE GREAT TALENT THAT WE HAVE, AND NICOLE'S A GREAT EXAMPLE OF THAT, AND WHAT I THINK COMES OUT OF THIS WHICH IS VERY IMPORTANT IS THAT THERE'S AN ONLINE VOTING COMPONENT TO THIS PROGRAM, STEVE, AND LAST YEAR WE HAD 60,000 TEENAGERS HMM VISIT OUR SITE AND VOTE FOR A PREVENTION SONG, SO WE KNOW THAT THE MESSAGE IS GETTING OUT THERE, AND IT'S A VERY DIFFERENT MESSAGE, I MEAN FOR YOU AND I OR SOME ADULTS TO GET OUT THERE AND TALK ABOUT YOU KNOW, SAYING NO IT DOESN'T HAVE THE SAME POWERFUL MESSAGE AS A YOUNG PERSON WHO'S LIVING THAT EXPERIENCE PEER TO PEER? PEER TO PEER YEAH YES IT'S SO INTERESTING SOMEONE SAYS OH IT'S EITHER THIS OR THAT IT'S EITHER A YOUNG PERSON TALKING TO ANOTHER PERSON IT'S MUSIC, IT'S A CERTAIN TREATMENT PROGRAM I'M SITTING THERE THINKING ABOUT THIS, IT'S NOT ONE THING RIGHT IT COULD BE ANY, THERE'S NO ONE WAY TO HELP ANY ONE PERSON AND YOU HAVE TO TRY A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS, IS THAT A FAIR ASSESSMENT CONNIE? WELL, BUT YOU SAID SOMETHING AT THE VERY BEGINNING, YES IT'S COMPLEX YES BUT THE PARENTING ISSUE IS THE MOST CRITICAL ISSUE WHAT ARE MOST PARENTS WHAT IS THE MOST COMMON MISTAKE THAT MOST PARENTS MAKE WHEN IT COMES, CAUSE YOU DON'T CONTROL YOUR KIDS YOU CAN TRY BUT IT DOESN'T WORK MM HMM OR SHOULD YOU EVEN TRY? WHAT IS ONE OF THE MOST COMMON MISTAKES MOST PARENTS MAKE WHO ARE TRYING TO HELP THEIR KIDS AND BE THERE FOR THEIR KIDS TO AVOID WHAT SO MANY YOUNG PEOPLE HAVE EXPERIENCED? I THINK IT'S NOT EVEN KNOWING WHAT YOU SO BRILLIANTLY SHARED WITH US AT THE AGE OF KINDERGARTEN 5, 6? IT'S NOT TOO YOUNG AN HONEST CONVERSATION WITH YOUR CHILD? OH, ALWAYS AN HONEST CONVERSATION, AND FOR KIDS TO BE READY TO FACE THE ISSUES OF LIFE, AND KNOW THAT THEIR FAMILY'S BEHIND THEM AND UNDERSTANDS WHAT THEY'RE GOING THROUGH HOW ABOUT IF A PARENT SAYS WATCHING RIGHT NOW YOU KNOW, THAT'S GREAT FOR YOUR PARENTS, YOUR DAD'S A DOCTOR, RIGHT? YOUR MOM'S A THERAPIST? YES YEAH BUT WE'RE NOT PROFESSIONALS MM HMM WE COULDN'T DO THAT WE RUN LOTS OF PROGRAMS BARNABAS INSTITUTE FOR PREVENTION CALLED TRENGTHENING FAMILIES AND WE BRING TOGETHER HIGH RISK FAMILIES, FOR 14 WEEKS TO LEARN BASIC PARENTING SKILLS WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? WHAT'S A HIGH RISK FAMILY MEAN? WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? SOMEONE HAS AN ADDICTION IN THE FAMILY ALREADY? WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? ADDICTION IN THE FAMILY, CHILDREN WHO ARE ALREADY INVOLVED IN ILLEGAL ACTIVITY HMM UH, KIDS THAT ARE OUT OF CONTROL, AND PARENTS DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH THEM AND THEY'RE 5, 6, 7, YEARS OLD AND THEY'RE ALREADY IN CHARGE OF THE FAMILY AND THE PARENTS DON'T KNOW HOW TO TAKE BACK CONTROL WHAT DO I NEED TO DO, TO RAISE MY KIDS AND THIS STRENGTHENING FAMILIES PROGRAM IS A 14 WEEK PROGRAM UM, THAT'S BEEN UM, WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION HAS DETERMINED THAT IS THE MOST SIGNIFICANT FAMILY PROGRAM, AND IT BRINGS THEM TOGETHER TO TEACH THE SKILLS THAT PARENTS ARE STRUGGLING WITH, BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW I THINK YOU SAID, I'LL COME BACK TO YOU, TOO OFTEN CHILDREN ARE MAKING THOSE DECISIONS, WHEN PARENTS SHOULD BE

JUMP IN THERE SURE, UM, IN I THINK THAT IT'S FUNNY THAT YOU MENTION THE WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION, UM, YOU KNOW TALKING ABOUT THE FAMILY PERSPECTIVE BECAUSE THIS IS A FAMILY PROBLEM, THIS IS A COMMUNITY PROBLEM, THIS IS A NATION PROBLEM, THIS IS A NEW JERSEY PROBLEM, UM, AND IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE PROGRAMS IN PLACE FOR PARENTS AS WELL, UM, BUT THE WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION ALSO POINTS OUT THAT IF YOU INCREASE ACCESS TO EDUCATION TO EMPLOYMENT AND TO SECURE HOUSING FOR YOUNG PEOPLE WHO ARE IN RECOVERY OR LIVING WITH SUBSTANCE ABUSE DISORDER, THAT IT MAKES IT THAT MUCH EASIER FOR THEM TO CHOOSE A LIFE OF WELLNESS CHOOSE A LIFE OF RECOVERY UNDER THAT CAUSE IF THEY DON'T DO THAT? BECAUSE IF THEY DON'T HAVE THAT, THAT CHOICE IS HARDER TO MAKE, UM, AND SO WHEN YOU ARE CREATING AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE IT'S EASIER TO SAY "YES" YOU KNOW THAT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE YOU KNOW YOU HAVE A WONDERFUL AND BEAUTIFUL VOICE AND YOUR SO TALENTED AND I HOPE THAT PEOPLE DO SAY "NO" YOU KNOW I REALLY DO YOU KNOW, BUT WHAT HAPPENS ONCE THEY SAY "YES" ONCE THEY SAY, IT'S INTERESTING WHAT IF THEY SAY "YES" THIS IS SO INTERESTING WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS ON ONE HAND WE WANT THEM TO SAY "NO" AND WE WANT TO DO EVERYTHING POSSIBLE FOR THEM TO SAY "NO" NO GUARANTEES, BUT EVERYTHING POSSIBLE TO SAY "NO" BUT ONCE THEY'VE SAID "YES" THEN WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, WHICH IS SO RIGHT, IS WE WANT TO CREATE AN ENVIRONMENT TO GIVE THEM A REASON MM HMM TO SAY "NO" WELL I'M ALSO, I'M ALSO OF THE MIND THAT I DON'T NECESSARILY A COUPLE OF MINUTES GO ON THINK THEY'LL JUST SAY "NO" UM, I THINK THAT THAT REALLY IN MY HEAD THAT REMINDS ME A LOT OF THE NANCY REAGAN THAT "JUST SAY NO" MENTALITY THAT'S NOT ENOUGH UM, AND THAT IS NOT ENOUGH THAT'S NOT ENOUGH? WELL I THINK IT'S A START STEVE I MEAN YOU HAVE THIS SENSE, YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO GET MESSAGES OUT, AND MESSAGES OF AND THE MESSAGE IS NOW? WELL FOR THE PARENTS, WE TALK ABOUT PARENTS, I MEAN, IT'S KNOWING WHAT YOUR CHILDREN ARE INVOLVED IN, I MEAN HAVING SPENDING TIME WITH THEM UH, BEING ABLE TO KNOW IF THERE'S A SLIPPING GRADES, IF THERE'S A CHANGE OF FRIENDS DIFFERENT SET OF NORMS THAT IF THEY'RE WERE A CHILD WHO LOVED SPORTS AND ALL OF A SUDDEN DECIDED TO THAT HE NO LONGER SHE NO LONGER WANTED TO BE INVOLVED IN THE TEAM IT'S A BIG CHANGE, BY THE WAY REAL QUICK, THE OTHER THING THEY KNOW, THE FIVE MEDICINE CHEST GOT A MINUTE LEFT DO THE FIVE CAN WE DO A DIRECT HOW WE DO IT THE FIVE THE GRAPHIC WITH THE FIVE ANG, PUT IT UP RIGHT THERE COULD YOU DO IT ANG? RIGHT THERE? TAKE INVENTORY OF YOUR PRESCRIPTION AND OVER-THE-COUNTER MEDICATION NEXT, ANG HELP ME OUT THE 2ND ONE IS TO SECURE YOUR MEDICINES, KEEP THEM OUT OF THE REACH OF CHILDREN, THE 3RD ONE IS TO DISPOSE OF YOUR MEDICINE AT A LOCATION THAT'S SAFE, WE TALKED ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT EARLIER FOURTH? THE FOURTH PART IS TO TAKE YOUR MEDICINE AS PRESCRIBED DON'T SHARE YOUR MEDICINE BECAUSE IT COULD HAVE DETRIMENTAL EFFECTS ON THE PEOPLE YOU'RE SHARING IT WITH AND FINALLY? FINALLY, MOST IMPORTANT, TALK TO YOUR CHILDREN ABOUT THIS ISSUE, PRESCRIPTION DRUGS DRUGS IN GENERAL BUT STEVE, THERE'S NO A FEW SECONDS GO AHEAD THERE'S NO GUARANTEE, I MEAN ONE OF THE THINGS WE FOUND IS THAT THERE ARE WONDERFUL FAMILIES, THAT ARE DOING ALL THE RIGHT THINGS, AND UNFORTUNATELY YOU STILL HAVE CHILDREN THAT ARE ABUSING BUT THE A FEW SECONDS BUT ODDS ARE IN YOUR FAVOR SO IF YOU SPENT TIME WITH YOUR CHILDREN, OUR RESEARCH HAS SHOWN OVER AND OVER AGAIN, THAT THEY'RE LESS LIKELY TO BE INVOLVED IN DRUGS I PROMISE GO AHEAD, A FEW SECONDS AND ALSO I THINK THAT THE PARENTS NEED TO BE A ROLE MODEL TO THEIR KID, MY PARENTS NEVER WERE WE'LL KEEP TALKING OFF THE AIR GO AHEAD OH MY PARENTS NEVER WOULD THE PRECEDING PROGRAM HAS BEEN A PRODUCTION OF THE CAUCUS EDUCATIONAL CORPORATION, CELEBRATING 25 YEARS OF BROADCAST EXCELLENCE AND THIRTEEN FOR WNET NJTV AND WHYY FUNDING FOR THIS EDITION OF CAUCUS NEW JERSEY HAS BEEN PROVIDED BY ACTIVIS IN COOPERATION WITH THE AMERICAN MEDICINE CHEST CHALLENGE BARNABAS HEALTH WELLS FARGO NEW JERSEY MANUFACTURERS INSURANCE GROUP NEW JERSEY NATURAL GAS AND BY QUALCARE INC TRANSPORTATION PROVIDED BY AIR BROOK LIMOUSINE SERVING THE METROPOLITAN NY-NJ AREA CAUCUS NEW JERSEY HAS BEEN PRODUCED IN PARTNERSHIP WITH TRISTAR STUDIOS THIS PROGRAM HAS BEEN MADE POSSIBLE IN PART BY NEW JERSEY STATE NURSES ASSOCIATION HI, I'M MARY ANN DONOHUE NEW JERSEY NURSES PLAY A KEY ROLE IN THE LIVES OF EVERYONE FROM A SCHOOL NURSE TEACHING A DIABETIC CHILD ABOUT INJECTIONS, TO A VISITING NURSE HELPING AN ELDERLY MOTHER DIE AT HOME, OR SOMEONE LIKE ME, A NURSING ADMINISTRATOR FOR A HEALTH CARE ORGANIZATION, WHATEVER THE ROLE, NURSES ARE THERE FOR YOU, AND THE NEW JERSEY STATE NURSES ASSOCIATION HAS BEEN PROTECTING THE PRACTICE OF NURSING AND QUALITY PATIENT CARE SINCE 1902

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